Update 05/29/2010 – Here is a blog post on mincing the term “pro-life” – it’s written by Joshua Holland and touches on one of the subjects that I write about here. I link to it here because he puts it much better than I can 😛
Abortion, Why is it Such a Big Deal?
Abortion. A loaded topic if ever there was such a thing. I don’t particularly know about the rest of the world, but people here in the U.S. go completely apeshit over the topic of abortion. I mean, there has been horrific violence tied to the subject, and I’m not talking about the dead fetuses. I’m talking about grown ass people kidnapping and killing doctors, bombing clinics, picketing, fighting, adding changes to legislation and so on and so forth. I mean, it’s a bit ridiculous.
I feel that no matter what you feel about the issue, whether you are so called “pro-choice” or “pro-life” there’s one small thing that we are all forgetting. Where is the freedom in this country? In a free nation, a person who wants to abort their unborn child should be well within their rights to do so. Point blank. I can understand extenuating circumstances and a governing body of law should be in place to address those issues when they arise, but for the most part…if someone wants to do it, let em.
What are the arguments against abortion? I would gather that a chunk of them are uber-religious in nature, and of that religion…I’d hazard a guess at Christianity being the biggest culprit. I suppose the biggest argument would be:
“They (the fetuses) are living human beings and therefore abortion is murder.”
When someone gets an abortion, I’m pretty sure that they’re going through some pretty strong physical, emotional and mental stresses already. Being labeled a murderer must be the icing on the cake right? I personally can’t see a fetus as a living human being, and even if such a thing is absolutely fact, I gotta ask this: So what? I’m a bit cold on this subject. I think there are too many people as is. Everybody wants to protect the fetus, but stops giving a fuck when it becomes an actual breathing human being.
Many arguments get brought into this equation. Questions about the health of the carrier. Questions about morals and lack of education. Questions about rape pregnancies and etc etc etc. With so many different possible circumstances and points of view on the subject, I think it would be best for everybody, if everybody let the individuals decide for themselves and/or with the people that they trust/love and are involved with.
Yes, I do think that some government involvement is in order, especially for those that need an abortion done and can’t afford it and to make sure there are universal and regulated procedures. Yes, I think that people should be educated about the possible health care concerns of having an abortion as well as about the alternatives to abortion. And yes, I do believe that those horrific fetus pictures that the pro-lifers like to show should be seen by people thinking to have the procedure done. Young girls who are thinking about it should talk it out with friends, family or professionals. But in the end, I also think that if people decide to have it done, they should not be criminalized and vilified for their actions.
To all of you woman that have had abortions, for whatever reasons, I’m not mad at you at all.
To all of you that are thinking about it, I urge you to educate yourselves first. There are other options and other things to consider. But, I leave it up to you, good luck.
Wikipedia has a lot of info to get you started off – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion
Here are some quick and easy to read facts – Abortion Facts
There is a LOT of literature and film on every aspect of abortion available – http://amzn.to/2c9xThQ
http://bit.ly/AbortionAMZSearch
I think George Carlin explains my view on the subject best. So I’m gonna let him talk. (Adding a few in case one goes down;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDI82tMiYog
The subject of this post, “abortion”, was suggested to me. See this post for more details.
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RE: As I do not, and probably never will have a uterus, I couldn’t even begin to understand. I think that’s one of the… http://disq.us/dlff1
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the burdens and privileges of having a uterus can be quite strenuous at times.
the burdens and privileges of having a uterus can be quite strenuous at times.
the burdens and privileges of having a uterus can be quite strenuous at times.
As I do not, and probably never will have a uterus, I couldn't even begin to understand. I think that's one of the very basic problems of this overall situation. The majority of lawmakers and policy makers are men. The majority of women that are in a position to do anything are widely influenced by those same men that are in power. Men who have no idea and couldn't possibly have too much of a say on the subject somehow have almost ALL the say on it :)) Definitely a sideways world we live in.
As I do not, and probably never will have a uterus, I couldn't even begin to understand. I think that's one of the very basic problems of this overall situation. The majority of lawmakers and policy makers are men. The majority of women that are in a position to do anything are widely influenced by those same men that are in power. Men who have no idea and couldn't possibly have too much of a say on the subject somehow have almost ALL the say on it :)) Definitely a sideways world we live in.
As I do not, and probably never will have a uterus, I couldn't even begin to understand. I think that's one of the very basic problems of this overall situation. The majority of lawmakers and policy makers are men. The majority of women that are in a position to do anything are widely influenced by those same men that are in power. Men who have no idea and couldn't possibly have too much of a say on the subject somehow have almost ALL the say on it :)) Definitely a sideways world we live in.
As I do not, and probably never will have a uterus, I couldn't even begin to understand. I think that's one of the very basic problems of this overall situation. The majority of lawmakers and policy makers are men. The majority of women that are in a position to do anything are widely influenced by those same men that are in power. Men who have no idea and couldn't possibly have too much of a say on the subject somehow have almost ALL the say on it :)) Definitely a sideways world we live in.
I agree with your stance on this. You can murder a living breathing human being, but you better watch your back if you even think about harming this parasitic bundle of cells…Hmmm….that's kinda harsh, but really! Let's try out well, not getting pregnant for a change of pace…. What do you know…no pregnancy….no need for an abortion. Rape is one thing, but laying down irresponsibly and then having these folks to defend you after the fact doesn't seem all that logical either…
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RE: Well, there’s a bit of a debate as to whether they can be considered parasitic or not. I looked it up while I was … http://disq.us/dlgcj
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Well, there's a bit of a debate as to whether they can be considered parasitic or not. I looked it up while I was writing this article 😛
As far as not getting pregnant, I agree, and it's a good idea…but ultimately not realistic. People are biologically geared to have sex. Procreation is what the human animal is all about. Might as well tell fish not to swim :))
My traffic has gone down a lot…probably due to my domain set to expire, but my abortion article seems quite popular – http://j.mp/9lvhCY
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Yes abortion is a heated subject, but I for one believe in castration. In my 21 yrs of age I have to admit to having lots of sex, yet I have never been pregnant. Involuntary pregnancy to me is an excuse that man and woman with low levels of intelligence cling to. What you tripped fell on a dick, it busted inside and you were too dumb founded to get the emergency contraception pill. Way too many woman in this country are using abortion as a form of contraception and although I don't disagree that freedom should prevail I also don't agree with quick fixes to bland stupidity! Yes there are way too many people in the world, but how about implementing an IQ test to birth ready females and sperm busting Males in order to determine if they should be castrated or not? As we do not choose our parents some of from womb are condemned to a horrific life due to the ignorance and low intelligence levels of our parents.
Castration is a tough sell :)) It's still done in many places for various reasons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration#In_humans) but if such a thing was implemented in this country, the powers that be would damn sure use it to keep minorities and other undesirables from spreading their seed too far :)) I bet you they would.
However, as the child of a 15 year old girl and a 17 year old boy, I gotta say, sometimes I'm glad I wasn't yanked out with a metal coat hanger :))
Also, despite everything, there is definitely a such thing as accidental pregnancy. Life WANTS to be created sometimes and no amount of contraception will stop it. As far as abortion as a contraceptive goes, I've seen a lot of that in my day, and see even more of it in the younger generation today. I don't like it, but my stance is, no matter how it happens, if they want to get rid of the fetus, then it's completely up to them to do it or not. The world will keep spinning, and people will still keep doing what they doing whether somebody has a child or not.
All in all, I like your harsh words. I appreciate that in people. Truly.
Castration is a tough sell :)) It's still done in many places for various reasons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration#In_humans) but if such a thing was implemented in this country, the powers that be would damn sure use it to keep minorities and other undesirables from spreading their seed too far :)) I bet you they would.
However, as the child of a 15 year old girl and a 17 year old boy, I gotta say, sometimes I'm glad I wasn't yanked out with a metal coat hanger :))
Also, despite everything, there is definitely a such thing as accidental pregnancy. Life WANTS to be created sometimes and no amount of contraception will stop it. As far as abortion as a contraceptive goes, I've seen a lot of that in my day, and see even more of it in the younger generation today. I don't like it, but my stance is, no matter how it happens, if they want to get rid of the fetus, then it's completely up to them to do it or not. The world will keep spinning, and people will still keep doing what they doing whether somebody has a child or not.
All in all, I like your harsh words. I appreciate that in people. Truly.
RE: Castration is a tough sell :)) It’s still done in many places for various reasons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration http://disq.us/dllcf
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RE: Here’s where you cross from the physical to the metaphysical. If you can accept that if you get pregnant, then you… http://disq.us/dln5s
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And if Life was ever to happen to me, as protected and careful as I am, Abortion would not even be an option because obviously it was meant to happen. Yet I'm sorry I am not a believer in accidents and Let heaven be damn If I am the exception on that 99.99999%.
Here's where you cross from the physical to the metaphysical. If you can accept that if you get pregnant, then you suppose it was just meant to happen, then that would go for everybody that gets pregnant no matter the why or how it happens 😉
The idea that accidents can't happen would imply that outside of just not having sex at all, then there is a 100% effective contraceptive method out there somewhere :))
No it would not apply to everyone! I take care of myself! I don't have ten baby daddy's whose dick I mistakenly tripped on and now on my 20th pregnancy I decided that abortion is my best method of birth control! Yes Gross exaggeration. Yet I hate kids, just as much as I hate stupid baby mamas (not all just ignorant, stupid baby mamas). As I said, I have had plenty of sex, lived with a man for 3 years and never have I had a slight doubt that I could be pregnant, I am smarter than that. For the life I want kids and abortions are an awful inconvenience. Not that I disagree with abortion, I just hate that this freedom just as all the “freedom” granted to us in our nation is grossly abused, and honestly I am disgusted. Daycare in high school are you shitting me! I almost threw up when I saw that in William Allen High when I moved to Allentown. Every aspect of the system sex education, abortion regulation, and welfare programs are design to dumb us down and yes many people I know should have been abortions yet I am damn Happy that my mother in a third world country decided that I wasn't going to be one regardless of not having the manipulated freebies (focus on manipulated, not really free but a great burden ultimately) offered by the great U.S!
RE: Yea…the daycare in high school thing did throw me off a little when I first started hearing about it :)) I didn’… http://disq.us/dlnf1
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Yea…the daycare in high school thing did throw me off a little when I first started hearing about it :)) I didn't even know they did it in the schools out here…guess that explains where all these high school girls are taking all of these babies that I see them with 😛
Somehow you managed to remind me of an old Big L lyric.
“You ain't a leader, what? Nobody followed you
You was never shit, ya mother shoulda swallowed you” :))
Ahhhh, Leeda, I find you an interesting person :))
Anywho, you stick to your convictions and hold some strong opinions. You should start a blog!
Yea…the daycare in high school thing did throw me off a little when I first started hearing about it :)) I didn't even know they did it in the schools out here…guess that explains where all these high school girls are taking all of these babies that I see them with 😛
Somehow you managed to remind me of an old Big L lyric.
“You ain't a leader, what? Nobody followed you
You was never shit, ya mother shoulda swallowed you” :))
Ahhhh, Leeda, I find you an interesting person :))
Anywho, you stick to your convictions and hold some strong opinions. You should start a blog!
he idea that accidents can't happen would imply that outside of just not having sex at all, then there is a 100% effective contraceptive method out there somewhere
he idea that accidents can't happen would imply that outside of just not having sex at all, then there is a 100% effective contraceptive method out there somewhere
indeed!!!
not bad!